We explored the iPhone Duo’s features.

You only get one shot at a first impression, and unveiling Apple’s first folding phone is a bold way for the CEO to kick things off. In today’s discussion, we’re diving into Apple’s launch event: how John Ternus fared in his debut as CEO, our thoughts on the new iPhones, and whether Apple is treading into risky territory with its latest AI features on the Apple Watch.

First up, I’m joined by Allison Johnson to chat about the new iPhones, which she had the opportunity to test in Cupertino. We both have some questions regarding the new variable aperture camera on the iPhone 18 Pro — specifically, whether the real enhancement is simply the wider aperture rather than the ability to adjust it. Then we explore the iPhone Duo and how Apple has selectively integrated the best elements from Android foldables.

Next, Victoria Song joins the conversation to discuss the new Apple Watches, which she also had a chance to try out. We delve into the new sensor array and whether it provides genuinely new metrics or just more vague health data. We also unpack the implications of Apple adding an always-on microphone to both new Apple Watches that summarizes your conversations.

This episode is packed with Apple news, and we transition to a special segment featuring Nilay Patel and David Imel, who chat with AI researcher CJ Trowbridge about the current state of running local LLMs on the Mac. Finally, we bring back the Thunder Round, racing through stories so Allison can catch her flight. We cover everything from OpenAI’s math drama to digital ocarinas and more.